How to Fight Racism with Jemar Tisby

S3 E6 | Now Is the Time for Justice with Jemar Tisby

How do we find hope, particularly in white American churches, when our history and identity is intertwined with racism? How does knowing who we were—and who we are—help us move toward who we want to become? I talk with historian Jemar Tisby, New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, about racism’s past and present reality, his sense of a growing darkness, why now is the time for justice, and also where he sees hope.



Jemar Tisby is a Christian, historian, speaker, a New York Times best-selling author, and co-host of the Pass the Mic podcast. Connect with him online:, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

“We can’t heal what we don’t reveal.”

“Not knowing our history or misremembering our history—telling part of the story—is actually an assault on our identity. We don’t get the full picture of who we are, whether as a corporate body as a church or as individuals.”

“Our own racial history as a church is about our identity. It’s about how we were, who we are, who we want to become.”

“If you want to talk about threats to Christianity, particularly in the United States, we need to talk about Christian nationalism.”

Time for Justice—Continuing the Conversation:


Scripture references: 10 Commandments, King David, Ephesians 3, Paul on Mars Hill

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